OpenAI

Creating Muse: The Fastest-Growing AI Product Since ChatGPT | Alexandr Wang, Meta

Oct 11, 2026 · 1:12:17

David Senra interviews Alexandr Wang, Meta's chief AI officer and co-founder of Scale AI, about building Muse, which Wang calls the fastest-growing consumer AI app of all time with 'millions' of users. Muse grew from Nat Friedman's OpenClaw experiments into a one-week prototype demoed to Meta's board in February, then a seven-month build by a team of under 200 to make a reliable personal agent. Wang argues Meta bet on personal AI over coding agents because its heritage and 3.5 billion daily users make consumer AI its edge, and he describes marketing Muse with memes to make Meta cool again. He recounts Zuckerberg's call after the Llama 4 setback, leaving Scale after nine years as Meta took 49%, and rebuilding Meta's AI lab as a flat, anti-bureaucratic team with over 200 direct reports.

Sam Altman on Building OpenAI & Betting on the Impossible

Aug 23, 2026 · 1:18:17

Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, tells David Senra that AI capabilities will outpace society's ability to adapt, and that human connection becomes more valuable as AI improves. Altman cites Shopify CEO Tobi Lütke as the most forward-leaning CEO because he builds with AI himself. He explains OpenAI's platform strategy—one interface, one API—which meant killing Sora and Atlas to focus on general intelligence. He credits Y Combinator's iterative philosophy for making OpenAI possible, even though OpenAI broke the playbook by going four and a half years without shipping a product. He also recalls the first day at Greg Brockman's apartment and says he learns more from successes than failures.